{"id":480,"date":"2003-10-19T02:02:06","date_gmt":"2003-10-19T06:02:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480"},"modified":"2007-07-31T09:13:41","modified_gmt":"2007-07-31T13:13:41","slug":"women-hijab-oppression","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480","title":{"rendered":"women, hijab, oppression"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>a comment i made on <a href=\"http:\/\/degrouchyowl.blogspot.com\/2003_09_28_degrouchyowl_archive.html#106469227455309528\">degrouchyowl&#8217;s web site<\/a> a while ago was brought into question by someone<br \/>\nso let me now explain it<\/p>\n<p>someone stated:<br \/>\n<i>How patently strange that you people think a western woman exercising her right to choose is oppressed and a muslim woman under a dress code is free&#8211;very odd \u00ef\u00bf\u00bd very pathetic. <\/i><\/p>\n<p>and to it i replied:<br \/>\n<i>multi-culturalism is the way to go <\/p>\n<p>diversity vs. assimilation <\/p>\n<p>the non-muslims bring up some important points (though not all are valid) especially this last one<br \/>\nwhen a western woman chooses, she&#8217;s oppressed by the media<br \/>\nwhen a muslim woman chooses, she&#8217;s choosing (choosing not to choose) <\/p>\n<p>multi-culturalism <\/p>\n<p>go canada<\/i><\/p>\n<p>what i mean is this, a common muslim argument to defend an islamic state where hijab would be mandatory is &#8220;but western women are oppressed by the popular culture and media to conform to rigid standards&#8221;<br \/>\ni don&#8217;t deny that pop culture has an immense influence upon the standards of dressing of women<br \/>\nhowever, it is not law<br \/>\na girl who dons the hijab in canada or america is, by defintion, a western woman<br \/>\nbut she has not been forced by the culture or the law to throw away the hijab and adopt the &#8216;western&#8217; way of dress<br \/>\non the contrary, her choice is (more often than not) respected by law<br \/>\n[this is not taking into account states like turkey, or france or the province of quebec, where hijab is in many cases not allowed &#8212; i&#8217;m talking about canada, as my post says &#8212; and even in france and quebec, the hijabi can take her case to court]<\/p>\n<p>on the other hand, if we go to this &#8216;islamic state,&#8217; women would be forced to wear the hijab, by law (e.g., taliban&#8217;s afghanistan)<br \/>\nthey would not have the choice to remove it if they willed, and they would not be able to take their case to court<\/p>\n<p>there are, here, two types of oppression, if that is a proper word to use<br \/>\nin the west, its media influence<br \/>\nin the case of the &#8216;islamic state,&#8217; it&#8217;s a binding law that makes it illegal to choose or refuse the hijab<\/p>\n<p>that&#8217;s the point i&#8217;m making<\/p>\n<p>but let&#8217;s say you have a patriarchical family who&#8217;s moved to the west<br \/>\nand the father makes his daughters or wife wear the hijab<br \/>\nhere, once again, is oppression<\/p>\n<p>say you have a western family who move to pakistan or something<br \/>\nand the father disallows his daughters or wife from wearing the hijab<br \/>\nthen yes, that, too is oppression<\/p>\n<p>but the latter doesn&#8217;t happen much too often<\/p>\n<p>of course, there are families where the parents disallow their daughters from wearing the hijab, for whatever reason<br \/>\nthat, too, is oppression<\/p>\n<p>i use the word broadly, there&#8217;s much to the issue of oppression<\/p>\n<p>anyway, that was my point<\/p>\n<p><span class='st_facebook' st_title='women, hijab, oppression' st_url='http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480' ><\/span><span class='st_twitter' st_title='women, hijab, oppression' st_url='http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480' ><\/span><span class='st_email' st_title='women, hijab, oppression' st_url='http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480' ><\/span><span class='st_sharethis' st_title='women, hijab, oppression' st_url='http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480' ><\/span><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>a comment i made on degrouchyowl&#8217;s web site a while ago was brought into question by someone so let me now explain it someone stated: How patently strange that you people think a western woman exercising her right to choose is oppressed and a muslim woman under a dress code is free&#8211;very odd \u00ef\u00bf\u00bd very [&hellip;]<\/p>\n<p><span class='st_facebook' st_title='women, hijab, oppression' st_url='http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480' ><\/span><span class='st_twitter' st_title='women, hijab, oppression' st_url='http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480' ><\/span><span class='st_email' st_title='women, hijab, oppression' st_url='http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480' ><\/span><span class='st_sharethis' st_title='women, hijab, oppression' st_url='http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/?p=480' ><\/span><\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[3,10],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/480"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=480"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/480\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=480"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=480"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/nomes.malcolm-x.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=480"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}